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Want to Sell Your Timeshare?

How do I sell my timeshare? The answer to this is with great difficulty, there are many companies out there who say they can sell it for you or have buyers waiting. Some are genuine some are not.

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If you think about it, timeshare is losing its appeal, resorts and developers are not making the sales like they did in the past. The number of sales staff and sales decks are dwindling, the guys on the streets with scratch cards are also disappearing, they are not as visible as they once were. Yes it is safer to walk the streets while on holiday without being trapped by them.

 

So if the big companies can´t sell them because no one wants it, how can these resale companies sell them? Go on to their web sites and see how many are up for sale, literally hundreds. Google timeshares for sale and see the number of companies listed, the best one to look at is ebay.co.uk

 

Just today the timeshares for mainland Spain is 34, all varying in price. Mostly what the owners perceive to be the value of their so called investment. After all the original sales pitch was “you are buying property and it goes up in value”. One is being offered for £2.99, another has a bid for only 25 pence. Yet another has 2 people watching, the others not a single bid or offer.

 

For Tenerife there are 23 listed with a Club la Costa  holiday voucher for only 10p. Another for 99p, and again only one with anybody watching. There is even one for a Marriot Timeshare in Florida for £1. The chances are the ones that are being watched are interesting those who already own at that particular resort and see them as a bargain. So why are these not selling or being given away? The answer is simple THE MAINTENANCE FEES.

 

If you decide to go down the resale company route beware, it is illegal to ask for any upfront fees. Some companies will get round this by quoting it as a marketing cost to put your timeshare on a higher profile on their web site. Others say it is a guarantee in case you pull out or do not complete the paperwork transaction. Unfortunately it may even be with them for a year and never sell.

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Quite often what happens next is the corporate buyer pitch, this is usually where you end up going to a meeting and being pitched for another product. The point of you selling is to be free, not becoming involved with another type of club which may or may not work, or even be genuine. So you are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

Whatever you decide keep your expectations low regarding the price, remember timeshares or not worth the value that most people think they are. Think about other options such as relinquishing, there is always a charge for this service, the matter is how much. Many resorts will do this but they may be very expensive charging several years maintenance.  Do your homework and due diligence before committing to a company, the information is out there.
If you require any information about a company you intend doing business with and want help in finding this information, contact us and we will help you free of charge.

Is It Resale?

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On 9th March 2016 the TCA posted a piece by Harriet Cooke of The Sun newspaper, her article from February 2016 was about Sell My Timeshare, a resale website. In the article it stated that 2,250 timeshares had been sold or cancelled by them in 2015.

 

This to me seems very odd, as many people I have spoken to in the past have informed me that they had contacted this company when trying to rid themselves of their timeshares. What then has happened is a meeting has been set up with Glenmore Consultants at one of their offices; Bournemouth, York or Stratford upon Avon.

 

At this meeting the client is then pitched to purchase Monster Credits in order to be rid of their timeshare. These credits can then be used for future holidays, with no time limit, some have even been told they are able to sell the unused credits for a small profit.

 

So in order to be rid of the timeshare the client pays Monster Travel a hefty sum of money in return for credits. This is not a timeshare resale. It reminds me of the ILG DWVC and Club Class meetings.

 

Monster Travel is a registered business, it is part of Hollywood Marketing SLU based in Tenerife. Although according to their web site, from the 3rd March 2016 they have been renamed Monster Group (Travel) SLU.
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RDO Trying to Scare ANFI Timeshare Owners.

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Since publishing the article on the history behind the Supreme Court Ruling, it has come to our attention that the RDO published on 18th March 2016 a piece in support of ANFI. This in itself is not surprising as ANFI is a fully paid up member to this old boys network.

 

The  RDO stated that, ANFI sought clarification about the length of the contracts from the Property Register and Notary Head Office. According to the RDO these two offices believed that the “pre-existing ANFI schemes were correctly adapted”.

 

Well this flies in the face of the Supreme Court Judgements. I know who I believe.

 

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It goes on to say that ANFI will respect the rulings but will now charge those ex members for their stays at ANFI. What is the RDO playing at? Have not these holidays already been paid for with respect to the maintenance fees that have been paid over the years?

 

Are RDO and ANFI misinterpreting the Spanish Civil Code about the returning to both parties “the things that constituted the subject matter of the judgement” (direct quote from RDO article). They go on to say the cost that the ex-owner will have to pay will be calculated by the rate it would cost to stay in similar five-star hotels. Apparently this has been calculated  from data provided by the University of Las Plamas.

 

Also how does ANFI believe they can suddenly go from being a Timeshare resort to a Hotel, surely the licences that govern these establishments prevents this from happening. This is something that I will need to verify.

 

The RDO goes on to state that from this data it proves that timeshare represents good value for money as the cost would be more than that paid for the timeshare. How this can be true beggars belief, did the University not take into account the years of maintenance paid? It makes me wonder who commissioned this study and what parameters were given.

 

The last paragraph of the piece goes on to warn anyone that they will be liable for this cost if they take any action against ANFI. Another scaremongering tactic from the industry trade body the RDO, in order to protect an industry that for too long has had its own way.

 

According to the Norwegian financial periodical Kapitalen published this month (Kapitalen 4/16) there are more than 400 timeshare owners with ongoing claims against ANFI worth around 11,600,000€. With around 257 active cases in the courts awaiting a decision, these claims are worth approximately 6.8 million€. These are not figures that can be ignored, no wonder the RDO and ANFI are putting the boot into the owners.

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Help! Where do I look?

Over the years I have seen many ways that you the timeshare or holiday club owner has been fleeced of your hard earned cash.

 

Firstly the bogus resale companies taking upfront fees as guarantees, with the promise you would get it refunded when your timeshare has been sold or if they are unable to sell it within a year. Then promptly disappear and reform as a new entity.

 

Then we had the we´ll get rid of your timeshare but to do this you have to join our non existent or never works holiday club. ILG had this well and truly sown up with the wonderful cashback scheme. You received a cashback certificate for the value of your timeshare which was more than you paid to join this new club. No one ever got the promised amount and many never got a thing.

 

After the closure of ILG a firm on the Costa del Sol, Ramirez and Ramirez began fleecing DWVC members, with the promise of legal action to recuperate the money lost. Other firms wanted payments upfront for doing relatively easy claims against credit card companies. Many of these claims failed or were never even instituted.

 

Then after Ramirez was closed down he opened as another company to claim back what clients had paid the firm Ramirez & Ramirez. Obviously using his old data.

 

Now we have the bogus claims companies. These make out that the courts have already seized assets from holiday clubs such as ILG or Club Class and resale companies. The modus operandi here is that you have already been awarded a substantial amount by the courts and this company has been charged with tracing you in order to pay you the money.

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This sounds very nice. But then there is a small matter of tax needing to be paid. One company downloaded genuine copies of tax forms from the internet for you to fill in. Then once you have done this, a bank transfer needs to be paid to a non existent notary or some other person. Another company wanted Western Union Transfers made out to a private individual. Low and behold you never hear from them again.

 

Another part to this idea was the NIE Number. Some FIRMS stated you need one of these to get the money back and they would do the work for you. Obviously for a fee, usually several hundred pounds. Now the NIE is the foreign residents identification number, which you only need if you become resident in spain or are buying real estate.

 

There are also now the class action companies, many are taking substantial fees to pay for these actions which in most cases are never instituted.

 

There are genuine companies out there but finding them is very difficult. There are also law firms who specialise in timeshare law, and are very successful, these are not part of the timeshare industry and tend to be shunned or slated by the timeshare companies, resort owners and the so called trade bodies such as the RDO and TATOC. Obviously they don’t want to lose your maintenance fees or payout compensation.

 

Any genuine law firm will be able to show you case papers of cases they have fought and won. The lawyers will also show their bar registration numbers, all lawyers must be members of the association for the area in which they practice. These can be easily checked and credited.

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You can also find information via the internet on how to get money back when payments have been made using a credit card. So there is no need to pay someone to do it.

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If you need any help and advice on how to find these things out contact inside timeshare for free and impartial advice. The information is out there, you just need to know where to find it.