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Mid Week Review: Mindtimeshare Post and Marriott Payout Voluntarily

Well, here we are, halfway through the last week of February and it has been quite a month for news from the courts, with Anfi appeals being systematically dismissed and others such as Palm Oasis and Marriott paying out without all the problems. Yesterday we also highlighted one case against Marriott with the story of one family’s purchase. This story certainly showed how misleading sales presentations can be and it also highlighted the problem of availability and then the ability to be able to book independently online, often cheaper than the annual maintenance fees.

First, we must address a post on the blog site Mindtimeshare.

On 17 February, Inside Timeshare published the article “Anfi and the Tui Connection: Are Tui Liable for Court Claims?”

This looked at a question that is being asked in legal circles, it is still under debate and the possibility is being investigated by various lawyers. The article did not as Mindtimeshare would have you believe say that Tui was liable for paying out on claims while they controlled Anfi.

The article clearly showed that Tui who was in control of the “Board of Directors” were at the time responsible for the decisions of all companies within the Anfi Group and that includes the sales departments. Although they are registered companies in their own right, they are still part of the Anfi Group which was controlled by Tui at the time, the same as the Cazorla Group are now. So the question still stands.

It is obvious that the person writing for Mindtimeshare has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

Their article is insinuating that the purpose behind the article is to “confuse” owners into making “spurious” legal claims. The purpose of the article is to inform people of legal questions and issues which are being raised, discussed and investigated. The article did not say that Tui was liable, it asked the question “could they be liable”.

Mindtimeshare has taken out of context in their blog this quote “This may also mean they are also liable for the claims against Anfi…”

(Obviously not a native English speaker!)

The full text is:

“Although Tui is no longer a shareholder at Anfi, they are legally responsible for the sale of the contracts which are illegal under Timeshare Law 42/98, sold under their watch as the controlling body of Anfi Group.”

“This may also mean they are also liable for the claims against Anfi which amount to over 48 million euros.”

Again it is posing a question, could they be liable in law?

They also state in their blog a point they have used for many years, that “Cold Calls” are “illegal” and not allowed under current Data Protection Law. Cold calls are not illegal, they are a recognised marketing tool and used by many industries. There are very strict rules which call centres must abide by, there are also rules on the data that is used. It must come from a legitimate and verifiable source, the information that they hold is also limited. Unsolicited emails, text messages etc are not allowed, emails can only be sent with the permission of the person being called. The information gained on these calls also cannot be passed to any other third party without the express permission either in writing or via a recording of the call by the “potential client”.

Once again we see Mindtimeshare confusing people with their half baked blogs, it appears they are also struggling to find anything to write about. Recently their posts have been gleaned from other sources and most are what can be called old news.

Alberto Garcia, is he back at the helm?

So again we have to ask the question, who is behind Mindtimeshare now, is Alberto Garcia back in control?

How are they being funded now?

What are they doing with all the data they have collected from “consumers” over the years?

These are very legitimate questions, after all for years this blog site was in the pay of the industry, with Silverpoint and Anfi being major contributors to the funding body the RDO.

Are they still being influenced by this?

On this point of data, Inside Timeshare does not share any readers details when they make an enquiry to any third party. Inside Timeshare will try to answer the questions and if the reader asks for a recommendation of who to go to, then we will give one. It is then down to the individual to make contact with the recommended firm unless the reader expressly asks for Inside Timeshare to make contact on their behalf and this must be in writing to conform to Data Protection.

Moving now to Marriott, yesterday we published the story of one family’s legal battle with Marriott, they have won their case and are just waiting for the payment to be made to the court and then receive this money into their own account.

Just after publishing the news came in about another case against Marriott at the Court of First Instance Number 4 of Marbella, which has now had a very satisfactory conclusion.

The court declared the contract null and void, also ordering Marriott to repay 34,992€ back to the client.

The case was heard in November 2020, with Marriott “VOLUNTARILY” paying the money into the court. These funds have now been released by the court and are now safely in the personal account of the German client, who no doubt is celebrating.

The companies named in the suit are MVCI Management SL and MVCI Holidays SL.

This has taken just 3 months and is one of the fastest payouts that we have seen for some time, this probably due to the fact that Marriott being responsible to their shareholders did admit to losing in the Spanish Courts and had already set aside over $16 million to cover these expenses.

Anfi, once again take note!

The case was prepared and brought on behalf of the client by the Canarian Legal Alliance Lawyer Oscar Salvador Santana Gonzalez with Claims Consultant Evi Richter assisting the client through the process.

We now wait and see if Marriott does the same with the case we highlighted yesterday, we suspect there will be news on this in the very near future.

If you have any questions or comments on any article published or just want to know if whoever has contacted you is genuine, please use our contact page and Inside Timeshare will get back to you.

Litigious Abogados: The Family Gets Bigger!

This family is certainly growing fast, the fake law firm from Tenerife has given birth to another fake lawyers office.

This one is called Armando Gareca Abogados, this one also has an office in Madrid as well as Tenerife, and according to their website, they are also engaged in law practice in Argentina.

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Armando Garcia

The website was created on 20 May 2017 so is only 12 days old, the owner is also hidden by a privacy protection service.

http://armandogarecaabogados.com/

It is exactly the same layout as all the others, with some new photographs added, one in particular shows a “lawyer” with the Argentinian flag behind him. They also show several official logos just to add credibility to their “firm”.

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Agustin Bigote Pringata

The scenario is the same as all the others, your timeshare company is being taken to court and you can be included in the case, you only have to pay the procurator fees to be included. Then, yes, you have guessed it, within weeks you have won your case and the cheque is waiting for you. But to receive this wonderful cheque you have to pay the “TAX”, probably the same amount as we have seen with the others, 10% of the awarded amount.

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Balthazar Fermid Nisberas

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Domingo Barlotes Miriendel

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Juan Firmid Mantadiz

The address they give in Tenerife is:

38002, Edificio 14, Calle de Valentín Sanz, 16, Santa Cruz De Tenerife, Spain

This address is the same for Abel Garcia and Abogacia Española, mentioned in previous articles, with the following telephone numbers:

For Tenerife:

Telephone: Freephone: 0800 802 1 885

Tenerife: 0034 822 680 067

For Madrid:

Calle del Halcón, 36, 402c, 28025, Madrid

Telephone: Freephone: 0800 802 1 778

Madrid: 0034 910 604 232

For Argentina:

Alsina 478, Salta, Argentina

Telephone: Argentina: 0054 387 480 0324

They also show 2 email addresses:

[email protected]

[email protected]

The letter which you receive tells when the firm was founded, must admit it is an exact date, Wednesday 27th June 1990. Wow, to be able to remember the day is really impressive. They also give their CIF number (Codigo de Identificación Fiscal) AS201411031, which if their past ones are anything to go by is fake.

This letter opens with an apology for contacting you in this manner, but it was deemed necessary as the number of complaints received by the European Complaints Authority has increased dramatically over the past 12 months. A body which if you google it, doesn’t actually exist.

It then goes on (3 pages worth) about the changes in timeshare law, and how greedy the timeshare companies are, (well we do have to agree with that one). But one of the best paragraphs is where they talk about “bogus and Fraudulent companies”, so are they talking about themselves?

Click on the link below to see the letter.

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There is a new name signing this one; Ramon Quajada Canil, sounds familiar, or is it just another take on the following names from the other members of this “family” (breeding like rabbits):

Ramon Quilnar Canal for Litigious Abogados

Ramon Quenan Cansal for Litigr Abogados

Ramon Quilon Climol for Abogacia Española

Ramon Quena Cinol  for Abel Garcia

At the foot of letter they also shows other official looking bodies, such as Asociación Española de Asesores Fiscal; Asociación Economistas, Colegio de Santa Cruz de Tenerife; Asociación de asesores Fiscales de Canarias.

Don’t be fooled by all this, it is one very clever and well thought out fraud, with new law firms popping up all the time. We just wonder how long before the next one is born!

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If you have had any contact from any of the “Firms” related to this, Inside Timeshare would like to hear from you. Do not be fooled by the amounts they say is there waiting for you. Spain does not operate under no win no fee, and to get a case to court will much more time than this lot would have you believe. The other fact to take into consideration is the name given as a director for all the timeshare companies CLC, Silverpoint, Diamond etc, is the same, Kevin Baker or Kevin Balker, who pleads guilty every time.

For more information on the other articles search Litigious Abogados in the search box at the top right of the page.

Remember, do you homework, if you are not sure contact Inside Timeshare and we will point you in the right direction.

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What! I Can´t Sell It?

Since posting the article titled “More Bad News For Anfi” yesterday 9 August, we have received many comments about the section on resale.

 

In this part is an advert posted on facebook about the sale of a one bed apartment for one week at Puerto Anfi. This is up for sale for £1000 ovno, with so far no one taking up the offer, not even Anfi! (I wonder why?) Many of the comments expressed the same theme, what resale market? No one is even buying from new!

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Having looked on ebay the number of timeshares for sale is staggering, many being given away, even with the incentive of the transfer fees being paid by the vendor. Yet still no takers. One has to ask why is this the case?

 

It may have something to do with the industry’s reputation, the fact maintenance fees are continually rising, the inability to get out of the contracts when circumstances change, or even the fact you can book into these timeshare resorts via the internet cheaper than members can.

 

Many of the resorts also have adverts on their own websites offering rentals to non members for less than most maintenance charges. Is this actually fair on the members, who bought with the promise they were joining an exclusive club, only members would be able to use the resorts.

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How many of you bought your timeshare with these two promises: You are buying property it will go up in value, when you no longer need it we will buy it back from you? Have any of these ever materialised? Only you can answer that question.

 

So what of the resale market, is there one?

 

Simple answer, NO!

 

Most owners, who have tried to sell have paid extortionate upfront fees, then never heard from the company again. Others have been lured to meetings with so-called corporate buyers. Then sold a dubious holiday club or some kind of leisure credits, with a huge discount for taking the timeshare off their hands. Unfortunately it is not a discount, the price quoted is basically double, then they take into account the “value” of your timeshare, highly inflated off course, that is your discount!

 

In many of these cases, a few years down the line they start getting maintenance fee demands from their resorts, the timeshare ownership was never transferred. So not only have they paid for a “club” that doesn’t work or even exist, they are still stuck with a timeshare they don´t want.

helpUnfortunately there are not many options:

 

  1. Keep it, and carry on paying maintenance, you may be able to rent it out to friends to cover some of the cost.
  2. Stop paying and walk away, hoping they will not chase you with debt collectors. (Not really an option).
  3. See if your resort will take it back (usually for several years maintenance fee payment if you are lucky).
  4. Using a reputable law firm to relinquish (this is by far the best option as it is done using legislation)
  5. Depending when and where you purchased, you may just be able to claim back the purchase price and have the contract cancelled. This will usually require a reputable law firm, well versed in timeshare legislation, and involves litigation.

 

In other words your options are limited.

 

Following are just a few of the comments received:

 

  • 1000 euros for a Puerto anfi week and nobody wants to by it , not even Anfi themselves 😢 that shows you how much the resale market is worth ….nothing 😓😢😢😓”
  • “Tried to sell got conned, wnated to give it back no luck now looking at lawyers”
  • “For sale over year no offers, believed promises of selling more than paid”
  • “Just want out cant give away”
  • “Tried raffle at local pub money goes to charity, no tickets sold”

 

There were many more, but all were saying the same thing, no one wants them. The last comment I think sums it up perfectly, if you can not even raffle it off for charity, what can you do?

 

If you would like further information on what options may be open to you, contact Inside Timeshare. We will try to give you the best advice and information possible, if we do not know the answer we will find it for you.

 

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