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Since we published last week’s Friday’s Letter from America, Inside Timeshare has received some very good news from one of our readers. It was concerning the “FAKE” law firm Amador Galeca Abogados, this reader had paid them by bank transfer to start “legal” proceedings against Royal Sunset Beach and Andrew Cooper. When she became suspicious, she found our articles on this group, which are part of the Litigious Abogados family of “FAKE” law firms.

We advised her to contact her bank and see if they could stop the transfer, this she did. Thankfully her bank has managed to do this and the money is now safely back in her account.

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She then received another call from this “law firm” asking why she had stopped the transfer and why she was not going to continue with the “case”. She told them in no uncertain terms that they were a “scam”, to which they replied, have you been reading the Inside Timeshare Blog? They are the ones perpetrating the scam!

Well, it is certainly a great scam, considering Inside Timeshare never receives or asks for any payment for any help or advice we give. To be a scam there must surely be some financial motive.

The only ones perpetrating a scam here are Amador Galeca Abogados along with all the other fake law firms this lot have produced. If Inside Timeshare is wrong in what we publish we ask this very simple question, YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE A LAW FIRM, SO WHY HAS INSIDE TIMESHARE OR OUR LAWYERS NOT HAD ANY NOTIFICATION OF YOU TAKING ANY LEGAL ACTION FOR PUBLISHING FALSEHOODS?

The simple answer is, YOU ARE THE FAKES, YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE DEFRAUDING VULNERABLE ELDERLY TIMESHARE OWNERS. THE AUTHORITIES ARE ONTO YOU AND WE WILL KEEP ON PUBLISHING ABOUT YOU AND EVERY NEW WEBSITE, FAKE LAWYERS NAMES THAT YOU COME UP WITH. THAT IS OUR PROMISE TO ALL OUR READERS!

Now on with this Tuesday’ article from Irene Parker.

Timeshare Lending Decisions

As Compared to Prenuptial Agreements

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By Irene Parker

October 10, 2017

Mesmerized by the thought of endless vacations, while on vacation brain, staring at a finger pointed to a low monthly payment, the last thing on the mind of a timeshare buyer is “What type of lending, if any, should I select in the event my decision to spend thousands of dollars for a vacation plan does not work out?”  

The decision made about how to finance a timeshare purchase has a dramatic impact on what happens if a buyer learns later they made a mistake.

Hopefully, you didn’t make a mistake. There are timeshare companies that work hard to keep up industry standards and provide a viable, if limited, secondary market.

Last week we published an article about timeshare Foreclosure. Out of 160 US timeshare complaints Inside Timeshare has received, the majority are about high interest rate loans and even higher interest rate credit cards. The toxic and compounding effect of this combination can spell financial disaster. It can mean the down payment is financed at around 25% and the loan 12% to 19%. Many tell us they were told any bank would refinance a timeshare at a lower interest rate only to learn banks do not finance timeshares. Comments include, “Banks would be crazy not to finance your timeshare. It is worth $500,000!” when it was worth nothing on the secondary market”. One complaint even stated specifics – the name of the bank, the term and an interest rate of 6%.  

At the last timeshare presentation I attended, the sales agent told us, “When you get home, take out a home equity loan. No one would finance at our interest rates.” However, transferring to a lower interest loan like a home equity loan may not be the right decision either.

Inside Timeshare published its first Nightmare on Timeshare Street article one year ago. The family was struggling to pay maintenance fees. As so many of our readers have reported, a common solution, as suggested by unscrupulous sales agents,  is to sell the existing member more points as this will afford them maintenance fee relief or the ability to sell points. Unfortunately, the programs were non-existent. Fortunately this family walked away from this deal. Unfortunately, they had taken the financing advice and took out a home equity loan transferring the loan to a third party lender. When the kids said they wanted nothing to do with timeshare, and the maintenance fees escalated, they were forced to deed back $60,000 worth of vacation points and were left with a $33,000 home equity loan and a high school graduate starting college.

Should timeshare buyers ever consider third party lending?

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Timeshare Attorney Mike Finn of the Finn Law Group says NO!

Mike posted this comment after reading “Foreclosure, Is it Survivable?”

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Another tremendous and informative article! I think the one major, major admonition I have for anyone, client or not, who has purchased a timeshare with developer financing and may want to reconsider the merits of the purchase (and, of course, assuming the rescission period has passed), do not, I repeat, do not under any circumstances, attempt to re-finance the purchase via a home equity line or a transfer to a lower interest credit card, or, for that matter any other methodology that has as its objective, re-paying the developer with other third party money.

For that matter don’t even think about using your own funds either! Assuming you soon may conclude that you do not want to continue with your timeshare obligation for whatever reason, legally based or economically driven or a combination of both, you will come out much better in the long run (no matter the developer’s interest rate) if you are left dealing with the developer as your creditor, as opposed to any other third party you opt to transfer that debt to! If you have any sort of legal argument that the resort debt was accompanied by any sort of misrepresentation or fraud in its inducement at time of contract of purchase, you will lose the benefit of that position with any other third party creditor save the resort!

Respectfully,

Mike Finn

This leads me to the comparison I made in today’s title, comparing a timeshare lending decision to a prenuptial agreement. Being in love is a little like being on vacation. A marriage often starts with a vacation. With love all around, the idea of signing an agreement that casts doubt on the “till death do us part” seems distasteful.

From what Mike Finn says, if you must buy a timeshare, begin with a negative end in mind. Buy it on the developer’s high interest rate nickel because in-house loans are easier to cancel. For my part, if this is the appropriate strategy, then a timeshare should never be purchased. Would I buy our timeshares again knowing what I know today? Yes, I would buy Port Elsewhere in the Ozarks and Maui Hill fixed-week timeshares again. Ambiguous right-to-use programs I think not.

Can we stop unethical timeshare business practices?

I doubt it. In Florida alone, $70 billion a year flows into the state in tourist dollars. Lawmakers, some influenced by lobbyists, have turned a deaf ear. Regulation is by design at the state level, disguising and diminishing the scope of the problem.  For some industry players, the culture of deceit on the front end of the timeshare sale is so ingrained it is the established norm. Until the problems associated with perpetual contracts with no secondary market and deceitful and overly aggressive sales tactics are acknowledged and addressed, buyers should consider carefully the choice between buying a timeshare and booking online. To my knowledge not one timeshare company has ever admitted wrongdoing.

The following self-help Facebook pages offer members a safe place to express concerns and share experiences. Petitioning a timeshare company can be frustrating and intimidating. Contact Inside Timeshare or one of these self-help groups if you have a positive or negative timeshare experience to share.

We seek to provide members a way to proactively address membership concerns; to advocate for timeshare reform; to obtain greater disclosure from the company; to advocate for a viable secondary market; and to educate prospective buyers.

https://www.facebook.com/timeshareadvocategroup/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/180578055325962/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/DiamondResortsOwnersAdvocacy/

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Thanks Irene for that article, also our thanks to Mike Finn of the Finn Law Group for your contribution.

Inside Timeshare welcomes contributions to our pages from you the readers, we are also looking for more contributors from Australia, Asia, Mexico Central and South America, India and anywhere that timeshare consumers exist. Let us all get together and share our experiences, the industry will only change when we all speak with one voice.

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Friday’s Letter from America on Thursday

Welcome to Friday’s Letter from America on Thursday, yes that is correct, we are publishing a day early as we are travelling to the US on Friday.

Inside Timeshare is visiting our American colleagues, with Irene and Don meeting me at Orlando airport, while there we have arranged to meet with several attorneys including America’s very own Timeshare Crusader Lisa Ann SchreierWe will also be meeting many other people and hopefully having a few cold beers.

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Inside Timeshare is also pleased to announce a new collaboration, for sometime CLA International based in Dubai, has been getting their website up and running. They have been following the articles published on Inside Timeshare and have asked if we would run their news section.

They wanted an independent voice rather than their own take on things, Inside Timeshare has agreed to supply those articles, so many of the articles regarding international timeshare news we publish will be posted on their website. These will be from the many contributors who are now writing for Inside Timeshare. We also hope to add more from the following areas:

India (Goa), Thailand and the surrounding Asian area, Australia, Mexico, Central and South America, we welcome any contributor who would like to publish their experiences, news and views on the world of timeshare. You can contact us via our contact page or direct to [email protected]

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Update from Europe

Once again, Inside Timeshare has heard from another reader who found our articles on the Litigious Abogados family, namely Amador Galeca Abogados.

The reader had a call regarding their timeshare at Royal Sunset Beach, with the name Andrew Cooper again being named as the director being taken to court with all his personal property and assets being seized. For a sum of just under 1000€ they could be part of the case.

The reader then made a bank transfer, but then decided to check out the name Andrew Cooper, finding our previous article. When the reader contacted us we explained how the scam operates, they immediately informed their bank and the bank is now trying to stop the transaction.

The reader explained that when her husband became too ill to travel Royal Sunset actually took back the timeshare, so they no longer owned. Because of this there would not be any basis for a claim in any court.

This story just goes to show once again, before you pay any money, check who you are dealing with. Hopefully the readers bank was informed in time to stop the money being transferred.

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We started the week with verdict from the courts against Palm Oasis (Tasolan), the following day the Supreme Court ruled on another case against Silverpoint in Tenerife, that made 64 rulings from this court on timeshare. In this case the court again declared the contract null and void, awarding over £99,000 plus a double deposit of £6,082 including legal fees and legal interest.

Then yesterday Wednesday 4 October the High Court in Tenerife ruled once again against Silverpoint and awarded over 67,000€ plus legal fees and interest to the client. This was then followed by the news the Supreme Court had just issued another sentence against Silverpoint, bringing the total number of cases won at this court by Canarian Legal Alliance to 65.

Now on with Irene’s article where she recounts our first meeting and her visit and interview with Canarian Legal Alliance. We have certainly moved on since that first meeting.

Canarian Legal Alliance and Inside Timeshare

The meeting of minds

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By Irene Parker

October 5, 2017

We are judged by the company we keep, so shortly after submitting my first article to Inside Timeshare my husband and I flew to Gran Canaria, Canary Islands to meet Charles Thomas and his Canarian Legal Alliance friends. It was not an easy trip since we boarded the wrong plane in Madrid and ended up in AMSTERDAM!

We stayed at Diamond Resorts Cala Blanca resort on Mogan. A Diamond sales agent in the US actually introduced me to Charles by sending me one of his articles. The staff at Cala Blanca could not have been nicer. I talked quite a while with the manager as he was the head of a resort employee union of sorts advocating on behalf of refugees he felt were being treated unfairly at a resort on the other side of the bay. One of the sales agents working at Cala Blanca and a friend of Charles is one of my Facebook friends.

In today’s timeshare world you can’t be too careful. Attorneys come in all ethical shapes and sizes. In addition to meeting Charles, I was able to meet with the CLA office manager Csilla, named business person of the year for Gran Canaria, several intake workers showing sincere compassion as they listened to timeshare accounts over the phone, and a few CLA lawyers. Since this July 2016 video clip CLA has achieved several more victories for EU timeshare clients – 65 Supreme Court victories to be exact as of October 4, 2017. Watching this video for the first time, I remember thinking if Cristina ever decides she doesn’t like law, she could find a job in the motion picture industry.

http://www.canarianlegalalliance.com/cla-latest-updates-video/

Timeshare today seems to have lost all sense of direction. True, we hear primarily from the disgruntled, but developer lawsuits flying back and forth between timeshare developers and transfer agents has left many timeshare members in a state of confusion. Who do you trust?

I trust CLA and am honored to have been asked to have my Inside Timeshare articles featured on the new CLA International website with Charles webmaster of the news tab. Our Diamond Resorts member sponsored Advocacy Facebook administrator and Economics Professor Michael Nuwer and Australian Contributor Justin Morgan submitted their comments for this article about the Apollo Global Management buyout of Diamond Resorts.

http://clainternational.ae/2017/09/28/who-is-apollo-what-is-apollo-two-diamond-member-consumer-advocates-offer-their-opinion/

Timeshare members need help. It has been widely reported many aging baby boomers (like me) are desperate to be released from timeshare. Some timeshare companies have launched surrender programs, like Wyndham’s Ovation program, but the vast majority of members contacting Inside Timeshare succumbed to high interest rate loans and credit cards. Thus, they are not eligible for voluntary surrender programs. Often they are forced into foreclosure. The problem is exacerbated when the member alleges they were deceived into buying a timeshare or upgraded for maintenance fees relief or buy-back programs that do not exist. Out of 157 complaints received (as of October 4), 143 allege deceit on the front end of the sale. The others can’t afford rising maintenance fees.

From our humble beginnings, as more members started helping other members, we called ourselves Timeshare Advocacy Group™ as members turned anger and disbelief into action and advocacy. Timeshare Advocacy Group™ started as an afterthought. A former timeshare sales agent contacted me and said they wanted to do a press release in Arizona. We needed a place where readers could respond.

Irina Allen stepped up to the plate. She is our Facebook page administrator.

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Irina (Irene) Allen purchased over $500,000 worth of timeshare points to share with family, friends and clients. On the advice of a sales agent, Irene opened a RedWeek account and posted one ad to rent some of her points. She gave up this idea after she never got paid for the rental. Rentals are not allowed, according to company rules, but there are hundreds of rental ads anyway. She also was accused of opening an Airbnb account. Irene says she has never had an Airbnb account. She was expected to pay $2,400 per month in mortgage payments and $29,000 in maintenance fees for a year while her account was suspended. Resorts are exempt from the rule for promotional purposes. Thus, the resort was able to rent out Irene’s points at Irene’s expense.

At Timeshare Advocacy Group™ members also help members with regulatory filings and media outreach. We have Wyndham, Bluegreen and Diamond members working alongside former Hyatt, Westgate, and Diamond timeshare sales agents in an effort to reform an industry badly in need of reform. In addition to timeshare members, other Advocates, like blogger Lisa Ann Schreier, lend their support. Lisa Ann and Charles are both former timeshare sales agents.

In America, it’s not easy these days for opposing sides to talk to each other, but every once in awhile there is a glance of a Republican sticking their toe over to the Democratic side of the aisle. It is our hope there will be a day when developers will take the time to listen to what critics have to say instead of only focusing on ambulance chasing unscrupulous transfer and listing agents. It is my belief, until the deception on the front end of the timeshare sale is acknowledged and addressed, the court of public opinion is the only court open for the beleaguered and often financially devastated timeshare member learning their contract is perpetual and the secondary market limited at best. For some timeshare companies, there is no secondary market. What other investment or product exists that holds the buyer of a product hostage?

Charles Irene

Charles is winging his way to America tomorrow, so let us know if you will be in the Orlando area October 8 – 12. Or, let Charles know the next times you happen to be on Gran Canaria in the Canary Islands.

I am a former stockbroker and financial planner. After I retired from the brokerage business, I became a CASA Supervisor, writing court reports for Family Court on behalf of children in foster care. I have always had a problem turning my back on anyone who considers themselves a victim. There are many ways to volunteer time in retirement. Join us in our efforts to enhance timeshare accountability and transparency.

http://insidetimeshare.com/what-a-volunteer-does-for-nothing/

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That’s it for this week, tomorrow will be a long day as it is Gran Canaria, Madrid, Miami then to Orlando. I know Irene and Don have set aside a couple of days to show me some of the sights, so it will not be all work and no play!

We will however be trying to publish some articles while over there, so keep an eye on these pages.

Have a great weekend

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