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A New Member to EGTBW (Rewritten)

Back in June 2016 Inside Timeshare published the following article, it started with a “Spoof” Trade Body which Inside Timeshare had just become a member of. Due to some of the articles we have published recently it was decided to republish this article as a warning that even “Trade Bodies” cannot be relied upon to give consumers the best advice or even tell the truth. (The article has also been amended from the original).

Although the article starts with some humour the message is very real, we hope that you enjoy reading it.

Inside Timeshare is proud to announce that it has been invited to become a member of the prestigious trade body EGTBW. This is the European Guild of Timeshare Blog Writers, it is affiliated to the IATBWG, the International Association of Timeshare Blog Writers Guilds.

Becoming a member means that Inside Timeshare must adhere to the Code of Conduct and Ethics of this Organisation.

  1. Members must not attack, make detrimental comments or otherwise demean any organisation that is a member or affiliated to EGTBW or IATBWG.
  2. Members must adhere to the laws of the EU, or the country of registration. Unless we can get away with it.
  3. The EGTBW and IATBWG will not mediate in any dispute between a member and non-members.
  4. If any organisation or entity has a complaint about a member of this organisation it must be taken directly to the member concerned.
  5. Any member may lie or spread false information about any non-member, citing freedom of speech and expression.
  6. If any action is taken against a member, both organisations will fully support that member, no matter what it has done wrong.
  7. Members may display both the EGTBW and IATBWG logos on all promotional material, correspondence and websites.

This Logo is a sign of quality and is a kite mark of excellence.

So there we have it Inside Timeshare has paid its £20,000 a year membership fee for the full protection and backup of these prestigious organisations. It now means we can do what the hell we like, so there!

If this was not a joke it would be farcical but unfortunately this is all too real in timeshare. On a daily basis we see owners and members being treated in the most disrespectful manner, we have also seen numerous court cases against the timeshare industry for breaking legislation.

There is an organisation that is supposed to be the trade body of this industry The RDO, (In the US it is ARDA), but it is its own members that are breaking the rules. What do they do about it? Not a sausage.

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This organisations own code of conduct states that members should adhere to any legislation and laws regarding the sale of timeshare. Yet we see illegal contracts still being sold, deposits being taken on the day, all in breach of EU Directives which are supposed to be in each member state’s laws.

The industry funds this organisation and it does its bidding, it will not even investigate its members when a complaint is made by an owner or member. They say that you must deal with your own resort/company.

They also believe that the press does not research the stories they publish, creating even more of a slur on the industry. Following is a direct quote from their own website under why join the RDO:

“Vacation ownership has been the victim of poorly researched press attention. These articles and broadcasts can cause serious and lasting damage to the reputation of the industry. RDO works on behalf of vacation ownership companies to clear up any misinformation, accusations of sharp business practices and to actively encourage the education of journalists and travel bloggers.”

“We believe that this work directly benefits all businesses in the industry by maintaining buyer confidence in holiday ownership. Additionally, RDO members have the added marketing advantage of being able to display the RDO logo on their marketing material. The RDO logo is a Kite Mark of quality for the holiday ownership industry and enables RDO Members to offer additional peace of mind to their customers.”

So a prestigious journalist such as Tony Hetherington has poorly researched his articles. (It must be pointed out that MacDonald Resorts have not been RDO members since 2005, but these articles highlight a problem that is rampant throughout the industry).

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http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/experts/article-2346500/TONY-HETHERINGTON-I-escape-nightmare-sun.html

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/experts/article-2698355/TONY-HETHERGINGTON-Even-death-not-rid-timeshare.html

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/experts/article-2527546/TONY-HETHERINGTON-Timeshare-boss-relents-spite-fighting-talk.html

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/article-1323162/TONY-HETHERINGTON-Death-doesnt-bring-end-timeshare-fee.html

So these are poorly research are they?

On another point, there have been numerous rulings made by the Spanish Supreme Court regarding the timeshare laws, Anfi (an RDO member) have been on the receiving end of these rulings, having contracts declared null and void and huge amounts having to be repaid to consumers. Anfi believe the court has got it wrong, the RDO it seems agrees with them!

For many, timeshare has become a burden, the membership base is aging, new younger members are not being attracted to the concept, hence many sales offices are closing and staff being laid off. Yet those that want to get out of their membership are being held to “ransom”, they can’t sell (no resale market) and can’t get out without paying huge amounts for the privilege.

What does the RDO do about this problem of getting out of the timeshare?

It enhances its “Code of Conduct” for so-called “legacy” cases, or those sold in perpetuity. The rules are not really very helpful and are as follows:

  • In the event of the death of a joint owner, the surviving owner can surrender their timeshare if they wish and additionally, the beneficiaries of a will are not obliged to take on the timeshare if they do not wish to do so.
  • A timeshare owner who has been declared bankrupt may hand back the timeshare without charge.
  • If a sole owner or either of the joint owners is suffering from a long-term illness that prevents them from travelling to their resort for the foreseeable future, the timeshare interest may be surrendered.
  • In all other cases, an owner may surrender their timeshare interest at any time, subject to the agreement of the RDO member. In such cases any surrender fee shall not exceed a sum equivalent to 3 years current maintenance fees.

(Notice it states “Subject to the agreement”)

As the industry trade body, should not the RDO back up these owners and make sure their members act in an ethical manner.

What of TATOC in all this?

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No surprise here, they back the RDO plans to the hilt, after all they are funded by RDO members who pay them to be members of TATOC, all so they can display this organisation’s logo. Oh sorry, it is another sign of prestige, you can trust us we are members of The RDO and TATOC; just look at our logos!

Since this article was first published TATOC has now been totally discredited and forced into bankruptcy. (Search TATOC in the search bar for previous articles). For years this organisation run by the infamous “Harry or is it Henry” Taylor, duped timeshare owners into believing that it was a credible organisation out to protect timeshare owners. It has now been proven that this was not in fact the case, in fact TATOC’s backing of MacDonald Resorts move to transfer their fixed week owners to the infamous points system and become members of a vacation club rather than owners, is a prime example.

We started this article with a spoof, the only thing is this spoof is real when it comes to timeshare. The industry is in decline, its reputation has been sullied, it only has itself to blame, the past greed and belief that they could get away with anything has finally caught up with it. Consumers no longer believe the “sales pitch”, they can see it is not value for money, members see their resorts being rented out to non members on the internet, usually for less than their maintenance fees. Yet the industry and the Trade Bodies cannot see the writing on the wall because they still believe they are right!

Inside Timeshare will continue to highlight any bad practice and report any news within the world of timeshare. If you have any questions regarding your ownership/membership, or need to know which company to deal with, contact Inside Timeshare and we will get back to you.

 

TATOC: The Fallen Angel of Timeshare.

TESS has published the court judgement in the case they brought against TATOC and Harry Taylor, this follows the publication by TATOC remarks made about TESS.

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Judgement against TATOC

TATOC accused TESS of running a cold call campaign and calling them a “scam” company, this verdict is very damaging for Harry Taylor and TATOC, which we know has now gone into administration.

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The trial took place at the Liverpool Civil and Family Court on 15 May 2017, the defendant Harry Taylor did not attend.

The court were satisfied that liability was established and that s1 Defamation Act 2013 test had been met. The court ordered the following:

  1. Judgement be entered for the Claimant.
  2. The Claimant is awarded:
  1. £75,000 by way of general damages to be payable forthwith;
  2. £100,000 by way of special damages to be payable forthwith;

The Defendant shall pay the claimant’s costs of and occasioned by the claim summarily assessed in the sum of £100,000 forthwith.

The court also stated that if the defendant disobeys the order they would be held in contempt of court and may be fined or have their assets seized.

So a very expensive day for TATOC. Well they did ask for it.

On Tuesday 16 May TATOC posted on FacebookTimeshare Association (Timeshare Owners and Committees) (“TATOC”) and its Chief Executive, Harry Taylor, have been subjected to many unfounded allegations in the social media and elsewhere to which neither TATOC nor Harry Taylor have responded, concentrating on the core business of TATOC which is to represent and protect the interests of timeshares and committees”.

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HARRY TAYLOR

https://www.facebook.com/TheTimeshareAssociationTATOC/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf

This author posted several comments, which began a string of other comments, for some reason it is no longer on there, the only comment is from someone who say they met Harry and found him a gentleman, with Harry thanking him for his kind words!

This author stated that Harry Taylor was a former Director at Diamond Resorts European Collection Limited, his reply was he was never a director. Well according to company house records there was a Henry Taylor, along with the same birthday as Harry, could it be a twin brother? I think not, after all Prince Henry Windsor, is known as Prince Harry!

Henry Taylor
His Twin Brother HENRY TAYLOR

Then when we look at the director records of company house it lists Harry Taylor’s directorships, lo and behold Diamond Resorts European Collection Limited is listed along with his others including TATOC.

So apart from duping The House of Lords, Parliament, the EU, Citizens Advice and others into believing that he and TATOC are or rather were, the VOX POPULI of timeshare owners he denies the recorded fact he is listed as a Diamond director.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/MRMXHV_gMruFstqlmrHwElEOnj0/appointments

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/02930567/officers

So who do you believe?

The author also asked if Harry Taylor was such a champion of timeshare owners, why did he back MacDonald Resorts to the hilt when they “forced” fixed week owners into their points system, saying that it was the best thing they good do and it would be better for them?

Well we all know about MacDonald’s, this company has not been a member of the RDO since 2005, yet were a staunch supporter of Harry Taylor and TATOC. I leave it to you to decide why?

MacDonalds are one of the downright ugly as the late Sandy Grey would say in his piece “The good, the bad and the ugly of timeshare”.

Ugly is not really a word I would use, despicable is more like it with a few profanities thrown in. After all Inside Timeshare has been highlighting a case of an 87 year old lady who is house bound and being chased for maintenance she does not owe. This has been passed to debt collecting agency, Network Credit Services in Scotland and they are threatening to take her to court.

So that is that, if they don’t pay what the court has ordered, which given their present financial difficulties, could we see Harry and the other directors losing their personal assets?

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Inside Timeshare looks forward to the next episode of TATOC: The Fallen Angel of Timeshare.

We welcome your views and comments, so do get in touch and share with the rest of the timeshare community who have been misled over the years.

 

The RDO: Does it Protect Consumers?

There are many trade associations which have been setup to represent the interests of their particular industry, but also to ensure that the public / consumer is also protected. So what about the timeshare / holiday ownership industry?

 

The trade body for this industry is the RDO, Resort Development Organisation, formerly the OTE, Organisation for Timeshare in Europe. It purports to represent the interests of resorts, developers, resale companies and consumers. But there seems to be a problem, it will not investigate any of it’s own members, even when there have been blatant breaches of regulations and their own codes of conduct. (see link: Tenerife Court Rules)

 

It is well known there are many cases going through the courts against RDO members, but nothing from this organisation acknowledging the fact. Look at the RDO website, the news section carries not one word about the 21 Supreme Court Rulings made against at least 3 of it’s members. The latest being another against Anfi, a long standing member of the RDO, yet again the RDO says nothing. (see CLA links)

 

At present one law firm has over 2000 cases at various stages of preparation going to court against RDO members, again nothing from the RDO apart from denials that any infringement of the laws have taken place. In other words don’t worry boys we will put a spin on this and protect you.

 

Only recently, Holiday Club Finland and Palm Oasis (Tasolan SL) have had rulings made against them, the RDO has said nothing. You the consumer are being kept in the dark, according to the RDO the judges have got it wrong, (even when they are unanimous decisions by a panel of 12 judges). They say these cases are not genuine, they are frivolous and even indicated that anyone winning a case will be liable to pay for all the holidays taken. Hang on, have you not already paid for them with maintenance fees? (see link: RDO Trying to Scare Anfi Owners)

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What is the mission of the RDO?

 

To put it simply, to ensure the interests of their members are served. They state they have a code of conduct and ethics, one of which is all members shall abide by any laws in the country in which they operate. This also includes the EU Directives on Timeshare. Yet for years they have ignored the fact their own members are operating outside of the law. According to their website they have a consumer policy which allows consumers to file complaints against its members. But in another paragraph they clearly state they will not mediate in any dispute and the consumer must first try to deal directly with the member concerned.

 

The RDO has even had the audacity to complain that newspaper articles about it´s members are poorly researched. A little snipe at Tony Hetherington who highlighted several cases of the bad practices of the industry and in particular another member of the RDO, MacDonald Hotels and Resorts. (see link: A new member)

 

In the past the RDO setup “The Enforcement Programme”, this was run by one Alberto Garcia and was called Mindtimeshare. It attacked any company that was not an RDO member, while protecting any company that was. This was highlighted several years ago by one Mrs Wilson, she approached Mindtimeshare for help with a dispute against Resort Properties / Silverpoint. Mindtimeshare failed miserably, she eventually took her case to court using the services of a Canarian law firm. She won her case for being sold several timeshare weeks as an investment which failed to materialise. Mindtimeshare has since been discredited and Alberto Garcia was forced out.

 

They have also set up another initiative called Timeshare Task Force, this is being overseen by Kwikchex, a company which also runs Timeshare Business Check. Again just like Mindtimeshare it targets any company that is not a member of the RDO. They have along with the RDO made out they have a legal authority to check on any business, then if that business fails to respond to their enquiries, (which it does not have to) negative comments are placed on the website. The overall picture is they are trying to look like a Pseudo Police Force without any official mandate. The company itself is run by a man who does not have a very good track record. (see link: Kwikchex)

 

Inside Timeshare has published many articles on the RDO, each time highlighting their failure to help the consumer. Each article even suggests that an independent body separate from the industry should be setup to ensure compliance and protection for the consumer.

 

Until the RDO recognises the fact they are protecting a discredited industry, failing to act against infringements by their own members, timeshare is going to remain a dirty word. The industry only has itself to blame and at the helm is the RDO.

 

http://insidetimeshare.com/tenerife-court-rules-silverpoint-responsible-resort-properties/

 

http://insidetimeshare.com/rdo-trying-scare-anfi-timeshare-owners/

 

http://insidetimeshare.com/kwikchex-chris-emmins/

 

http://insidetimeshare.com/new-member-egtbw/

 

http://www.canarianlegalalliance.com/visit-from-one-of-our-supreme-court-victors/

 

http://www.canarianlegalalliance.com/anfi-supreme-court-21/

 

http://www.canarianlegalalliance.com/cla-supreme-court-success-against-puerto-calma/

 

A New Member to EGTBW

Inside Timeshare is proud to announce that it has been invited to become a member of the prestigious trade body EGTBW. This is the European Guild of Timeshare Blog Writers, it is affiliated to the IATBWG, the International Association of Timeshare Blog Writers Guilds.

 

Becoming a member means that Inside Timeshare must adhere to the Code of Conduct and Ethics of this Organisation.

 

  1. Members must not attack, make detrimental comments or otherwise demean any organisation that is a member or affiliated to EGTBW or IATBWG.
  2. Members must adhere to the laws of the EU, or the country of registration. Unless they can get away with it.
  3. The EGTBW and IATBWG will not mediate in any dispute between a member and non-members.
  4. If any organisation or entity has a complaint about a member of this organisation it must be taken directly to the member concerned.
  5. Any member may lie or spread false information about any non-member, citing freedom of speech and expression.
  6. If any action is taken against a member, both organisations will fully support that member, no matter what it has done wrong.
  7. Members may display both the EGTBW and IATBWG logos on all promotional material, correspondence and websites.

This Logo is a sign of quality and is a kite mark of excellence.

 

So there we have it Inside Timeshare has paid its £20,000 a year membership fee for the full protection and backup of these prestigious organisations. It now means we can do what the hell we like, so there!

 

If this was not a joke it would be farcical but unfortunately this is all too real in timeshare. On a daily basis we see owners and members being treated in the most disrespectful manner, we have also seen numerous court cases against the timeshare industry for breaking legislation.

 

There is an organisation that is supposed to be the trade body of this industry The RDO, but it is its own members that are breaking the rules. What do they do about it? Not a sausage.

rdo-logo

This organisations own code of conduct states that members should adhere to any legislation and laws regarding the sale of timeshare. Yet we see illegal contracts still being sold, deposits being taken on the day, all in breach of EU Directives which are supposed to be in each member state’s laws.

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Maintenance Arrears and Debt Collectors.

Further to Fridays Article 10 June 2016, Inside Timeshare has been doing a little digging. The TCA published a list in August 2015 of timeshare companies that have threatened legal action to force payment of the maintenance fees. The first part of the list are those that have threatened legal action using either debt collectors or solicitors, in some cases even bogus lawyers.

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The above companies have made the threats, but as far as can be ascertained have never actually taken any case to court.

The following companies have taken legal action but what the success rate has been is at present unknown.

So where do you the owners actually stand?

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My Thoughts Today.

Every morning I switch on my computer and start looking at the various timeshare related websites, I am amazed at some of the verbal diatribe that many present. The use of language to say the least is appalling, most of the time the content does not even reflect the topic that they headline.

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One site that I looked at today, which shall remain nameless, could not even get the details of their association correct. Rather than saying National Association it stated they were members of a Nation Association. If they can not even get these small facts correct, how can you even trust what they offer?

 

Most at the end of the day are just after your money, they do not really care if you have been wronged. The information given is confusing to say the least. Facts are not given, sources are none existent, and most of the time they are either timeshare industry related or on the periphery.

 

One piece I was reading today was from the Chief Executive of the RDO, in his blog of January 4th 2016, He ranted on about the legal system in Spain, that it had got the laws wrong on timeshare, from how I read it only English law was correct. Mind you, it was in defence of his own industry, TIMESHARE. The industry that his organisation should be regulating and ensuring that its members do the right thing.

 

This organisation only exists to make sure they have a business, the consumer is just fodder for their coffers. Is it any wonder that there are so many claims going through the courts, when the governing body will not even investigate its own members? If they did what they should and what is right, maybe there would not be so much controversy around the industry.

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Timeshare is a sound concept, it is the way in which it is sold that is the problem. All the lies that “UPS” are told on the sales decks, nothing in writing apart from the contracts, which as we have seen from the Spanish courts in accordance with EU Directives on timeshare, are unfair and illegal. How many times have we heard “it’s an investment, you are buying bricks and mortar”. “Your children can inherit it, what a legacy to give them, something they will remember you by”.

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Kwikchex and Chris Emmins

An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because no one sees it.

Mahatma Ghandi.

 

Who and what is Kwikchex, well it seems that no one really knows, It purports to be a WORLDWIDE REPUTATIONAL MANAGEMENT COMPANY. Big words for a company that has only two directors and has been registered for just under 6 years. It has been given the contract to run the Timeshare Task Force and improve the reputation of the Timeshare Industry in Europe by The RDO.

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The company is headed by Mr Christopher Anthony Emmins, a position he has held for 5 years and 4 months. Director I.D. 904358976 and born in June 1957, the entry on Director Check for nationality shows unknown.

 

He has resigned from 4 companies and held 17 appointments at 17 dissolved Companies. It is alleged that the dissolved companies has left unpaid creditors with around £500,000 of debt.

 

The following are the companies he has been associated with:

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